Dialogs With Seekers of Truth - 2

2nd Dialogue

Seeker: I plan to go to India, but I'm thinking that spending a few days with you in retreat can make a big difference to my trip. I have some questions that are still not very clear to me ... I want to learn to meditate, you talk about techniques, I think I don’t have them, so I'm in trouble, I need to learn to concentrate. The yoga courses here in my town are mere gyms, without the development of consciousness, there is something missing (Sankhya). I'm reading the Bhagavad-Gita, the teachings of Sri Shankaracharya and Patanjali attract me much, but to put into practice I need help. The process is crucial and I really feel a bit lost. As you said: "the blind leading the blind", or worse, a lot of people out there just reproducing texts, doing yogic contortions and naming themselves yogis ... You did not cite texts (references lol!), But I realize them in-between. You speak of a place (Rishikesh?). Well, right now I'm just trying to be silent, trying to meditate, doing japa. I want to see things as they really are, out of illusion. Satyavan, you know, sometimes I have the impression that the thing is so simple, so simple that it is put aside for thinking that the truth lies behind a complex puzzle which we have to unravel, through a higher intellectual function, Is there that illusion rests?
 

Satyavan: eheheheh ... The reason why I don’t quote texts (bibliographic references) is because there are none! If you notice them it is only you associating this texts with something else, if they are in tune is because they speak the same "thing" ... If there is any purpose in What I wright in the texts, perhaps is to "guide" in a way that only the most attentive realize ... The practice is only for the realization of truth, and not to give meaning to what is understood as the life of the body, what most seekers are really wanting is a purpose to give to the illusion that they identify with, that’s why there is no "moving  forward", they are just looking for a comfortable existence and not of the" origin ", and that is a big or “The Big "mistake. The Realization of Truth is really quite simple, the harder it is to "let go" of illusion. The teachings of yoga guides from illusion to reality but their interpretation is conditioned by the level of understanding / awareness of the aspirant, but still if followed with diligence, in honesty the aspirant’s level of understanding, it gives support to break with illusion, with his own beliefs. Regarding the techniques I don’t speak any more about them, because it's irrelevant... more important than the techniques is the motivation, the will! Even the texts that you read here, what you understand and what I wrote are almost entirely different universes; the words receive the meaning that the reader gives them. Here in the Ashram I don’t give the teachings of yoga, but I go directly to “The Point”, what limits you here and now, no philosophies, and no distractions, directly to the point. The real India is the center of silence that you are, You Are Totality.
 

Seeker: no philosophies, directly to the point ... this is wonderful! I wonder ... Well… if I understand that I am not this body, I am part of All ... How to break the identification with the body? And how do we identify with the Absolute? You see ... just knowing that (intellectually) is not enough, and there it is: how to link to the Absolute, how to remove this illusory distance so hard to "let go"? If you "guide" is because there is a path, right? What is it? Who are those that are most attentive?
 

Satyavan: To try to know the truth through your own beliefs is like a cat chasing to catch his own tail... you say that you understand that you are not the body, you say that you are part of the whole (concept of the body and concept of the whole, when I refer to body I speak of individuality), but the clear notion as "everybody" has and it couldn’t be otherwise, that I (the identity) is something apart (yes this says a lot), even if you imagine you have to identify with the whole, as if the whole were made from parts, as if you were a part of the whole, as if the parts are real ... Is there is any path? If you call to the abandoning of all ideas and paths, a path, then we have a path, stillness, the zero point. Really just knowing about it is not enough... Or you begin to abandon illusion, and deal with the fears that emerge from this process, or it will persist even if you theorize that this is just a dream. Suffering and joy also arise in what you call the dream state, and when you wake up from the dream, the dream loses all its importance with the clear understanding that it is a dream. Here in what you call reality the only difference is that you believe it to be real thus it persists, you invest in this, you have dreams here, completely immersed in illusion, convinced that that from where recognition is taking place, and that which is being recognized is real the way it presents itself. Remember the words I put here have a meaning, but the words that see here get a totally different meaning, according to your beliefs. True communication is heart to heart. Don’t just stay there enchanted with the heat luminosity of the fire, come closer, come and burn in it.
 

Seeker: Yesterday you told me that you do not pass teachings of yoga at the Ashram, but you go straight to the point, what limits you here and now, no philosophies, directly to the point. Today, you say that trying to know the truth through our own beliefs is like a cat that tries to catch his own tail ... "From" where do you speak? Who introduced you to this fire, or did you sought this fire yourself? This question will help me reflect on what you said.

Satyavan: I speak from direct knowledge, these are no theories that I’m presenting you. This fire sparked in me and never stopped burning until nothing was left ... All aid (teachings) would point to silence, and I dove into it, I have plunged in the fire of my own silence. But you know this is unimportant, if this confirmation is necessary for you to open yourself to the words above, then they don’t serve you, if you seek the security of the credibility of these words, then they don’t serve you. This is for the heart. The mind doubts, the heart always knows. But like I said, it's irrelevant, I'm irrelevant; when you dive in your own silence you will know until then you'll just theorize. If this helps you than great, if it doesn’t help you, great ... but this is for the heart, the mind knows nothing, and so much confidence is placed in the same ... Don’t believe me. Investigate!
 

Seeker: I'm investigating (internally) everything you told me. Trying to hear my silence. The fire was weak. You put fuel on the fire lol
  Thank you...!